The science also raises the possibility of 'male eggs' made from men's skin and 'female sperm' from women's skin. This would allow gay couples to have children genetically their own
Folks, that is the crux of the marriage issue - should we allow same-sex couples to attempt to procreate together, to attempt to use artificial gametes to create biological offspring together. Marriage has always meant that the couple is allowed to procreate together and that should not be changed. They LIE when they say they just want to live their own lives, they want to create other people's lives, forcing us to pay for all this research and forcing us to fund each procedure. This will cost Billions, and is totally useless, no same-sex couple needs to create biologically related children together. People should only have the right to procreate with someone of the other sex, and all marriages should protect the couple's right to procreate. Same-sex marriage will either make it impossible to stop same-sex couples from using experimental technology, or it will strip the right to procreate from all married couples, making it possible to tell any couple that their procreation would be unsafe or not genetically fit enough, and forcing them to use substitute gametes.
Same-sex couples simply should not have equal rights. People should only have the right to procreate with someone of the other sex.
You seem to be confused about the ethics of same-sex marriage and the ethics of biological engineering. Your example of a couple being denied the right to procreate is actually a textbook example of the ethical questions of biological research. The idea of a couple being denied the right to procreate seems incredibly far-fetched simply because you fail to take into account the idea of general human rights. Also, this argument can be flipped around. Imagine, if you will, that scientists discover a "gay gene." What if couples could be quickly and easily tested for the presence of this gene. You object to the above situation of a couple being forbidden to procreate because of a high probability for a child with a serious genetic defect, yet would you still object to the couple being forbidden to procreate because of a high probability of producing a gay child? To be quite honest, blunt, disrespectful, and rude, I have a feeling that you would not object to the latter situation.
Of course I would object to any genetic testing to approve or prohibit procreation, including testing for being gay. Would you?
And though there might never be laws that prohibited any married couple from procreating together, there might be other coercions and disincentives that have the same effect, where a person doesn't feel they have a choice except to use substitute genes. We need to establish that it is always right to procreate with ones own genes, with ones spouse, it is never wrong.
And we need to establish that it is never right to create people from modified genes, it is always wrong.
What marriage is really about
Did anyone see DrudgeReport.com today? He's headlining a story out of Stanford University where stem cell scientists have made sperm and egg cells from skin cells. His headline is "BABIES WITHOUT MEN OR WOMEN?" and the article states that this research could help infertile people create replacement gametes, and - the Headline News - could also help same-sex couples have biologically related children together.
The science also raises the possibility of 'male eggs' made from men's skin and 'female sperm' from women's skin. This would allow gay couples to have children genetically their own
Folks, that is the crux of the marriage issue - should we allow same-sex couples to attempt to procreate together, to attempt to use artificial gametes to create biological offspring together. Marriage has always meant that the couple is allowed to procreate together and that should not be changed. They LIE when they say they just want to live their own lives, they want to create other people's lives, forcing us to pay for all this research and forcing us to fund each procedure. This will cost Billions, and is totally useless, no same-sex couple needs to create biologically related children together. People should only have the right to procreate with someone of the other sex, and all marriages should protect the couple's right to procreate. Same-sex marriage will either make it impossible to stop same-sex couples from using experimental technology, or it will strip the right to procreate from all married couples, making it possible to tell any couple that their procreation would be unsafe or not genetically fit enough, and forcing them to use substitute gametes.
Same-sex couples simply should not have equal rights. People should only have the right to procreate with someone of the other sex.
You seem to be confused about
You seem to be confused about the ethics of same-sex marriage and the ethics of biological engineering. Your example of a couple being denied the right to procreate is actually a textbook example of the ethical questions of biological research. The idea of a couple being denied the right to procreate seems incredibly far-fetched simply because you fail to take into account the idea of general human rights. Also, this argument can be flipped around. Imagine, if you will, that scientists discover a "gay gene." What if couples could be quickly and easily tested for the presence of this gene. You object to the above situation of a couple being forbidden to procreate because of a high probability for a child with a serious genetic defect, yet would you still object to the couple being forbidden to procreate because of a high probability of producing a gay child? To be quite honest, blunt, disrespectful, and rude, I have a feeling that you would not object to the latter situation.
Of course I would object to
Of course I would object to any genetic testing to approve or prohibit procreation, including testing for being gay. Would you?
And though there might never be laws that prohibited any married couple from procreating together, there might be other coercions and disincentives that have the same effect, where a person doesn't feel they have a choice except to use substitute genes. We need to establish that it is always right to procreate with ones own genes, with ones spouse, it is never wrong.
And we need to establish that it is never right to create people from modified genes, it is always wrong.